I have been thinking about turning. Vampires have to go through a ritual death and rebirth. Or is that just psychic vampires? They also could be turn from blood drainage. I found a meditation supposedly you could turn in to a vampire by entering a intense meditative trance beginning on the New Moon and finishing on the Full Moon. Doing this meditayion is not going to work I don't believe. Or will it?

A person is born with the Vampire essence dormant inside their body.
Instead of being a human body with a human soul the spirit inside the body is Otherkin of some kind. Either Vampire, Were, Elvin, Therian, etc....

What happens is that at some time in your life, (often as you hit puberty, usually in your teens), the kin essence sleeping inside you begins to stir, and wake up. You become aware of seeing things differently, and often this is the time when you realise that you have always seen things a little differently, but NOW you know why! lol
This is The Awakening.

I suppose it could be seen as a kind of death, but it is more a kind of letting go. Throughout this life you will always be human on the outside, but you have to learn to let go of the limits humanity would put on you and allow yourself to feel the kin within you.
This could be seen by some as being re-born as Otherkin. But it is much more of an awakening to the real you, that has been lying dormant all the years before, awaiting the right moment.
Of course the right moment for it may not be the right moment for you. And IT does not care! lol


Unfortunately there is no way for a human to become any kind of Otherkin, there is not a single meditation/spell/enchantment or turning method that will make a human a Vampire or any other kind of kin.
Nothing in the Universe can turn you into something you are not. If you don't have it..... You don't have it.
However I do think that if the meditation went deep enough it could contact the sleeping kin-ness inside you and awaken it that way.
If you were to attempt this meditation and you were to then find you were a member of a race of Otherkin, (whatever race that might be), it would not be the meditation that caused it, it would merely have touched upon it, and awoken it.
If you have it you will eventually discover it, but do not let anyone tell you they gave it to you.... It is yours because it is your destiny and it was ALWAYS meant to be.
It is a gift from The Source, and no-one else.

Lady C.

Just tossing ideas around here.

If there was a human who let go of human ideas. Couldn't they technically raise their energy levels and such and become at least near our level?

Again, just tossing some ideas around in my head.
~Legitimize

As I see it Farshief, the problem with this is that a human conciously trying to let go of all human ideas in order to become more like one of us would have to be actively thinking about letting go of them.
That would mean that they were actively thinking of them, making it almost certanly impossible for them to effectively let go of them.

It's a catch 22 situation that doesn't seem to have a solution.
Thankfully.

Ahh, it had actually been so long since I posted the post that you were replying to that I forgot all about it

I actually thought you must have typed the wrong name somehow when I got the email.

On that subject though, I see what you mean. I honestly don't remember where my mind was going with the ideas I was tossing around though so I won't comment on it further.

~Farshief

Oh OK. I liked the idea, as a possible discussion I though it might be interesting. But never mind.

When you say

What does that mean? You got an email with my whole post quoted in it?
If that is what you mean, how did you arrange that? Is there somewhere on the forum you sign up for that?

No, I am sure my train of thought will come back later. I am just to tired right at the moment.

And yes, I get emails of replied to topics I am subscribed to on here. In this email it tells me what you said. So I can pretty much decide whether or not I want to reply without ever entering the site It saves loading time.

You are the second person to have asked me that recently.

So here it is: First off, go to your Control Panel. From there go to 'Email Settings'.

Now, in Email Settings. There are two options you will want to check probably. The first(going from the top), is to 'Include a copy of the post when emailing me from a subscribed topic'. The second, is to 'Enable "Email Notification" by default?'.

That is pretty much it. Now when you make a reply to a post. You will be subscribed to the topic by default. And when it sends you an email to notify you of replies. It will contain a copy of that reply with it.

Mind you, it doesn't send one for every reply. Just the first one since you've looked usually. So it's not perfect. But I find it convenient.

~Farshief

I think I see what you're saying Cobweb.

That it would be like someone saying to you whatever you do don't think about elephants. For the next three days all you'd be able to think about would be elephants. Big ones, little ones, white ones, pink ones. There'd be herds of them all over your brain.
You'd have no chance of ever forgetting them. Right?

I think emails telling me I'd got replies to posts would annoy me so I'm going to stay away from those buttons. I wondered what they were for. Thanks for the warning Farshief.

I don't think that humans could let go of human ideas, because by the time they are old enough to realise that they might like to, these ideas are already too well integrated into their natures.
We all know from our own experiences that a lifetime of believing you are one thing can make it extremely difficult to fully embrace the notion of being something else, even when you know you are.
When you just wish you were, extremely difficult very easily becomes virtually impossible.
I say virtually impossible here because although I personally see no way for it to ever happen, this is only my opinion and so I cannot say it is impossible.
However, that doesn't and shouldn't stop them from trying to understand us better, and if they cannot be nice and understanding then at least they could do the decent thing and leave us alone. Even being human and unable to remedy that shouldn't stop anyone from viewing others who are different with compassion and understanding.
Many of us do not believe they would be this understanding towards us, or even this willing to just walk away, and so we hide our true natures and do our best to fit in.
Unfortunately this desperation not to stand out, and the efforts we put into blending in with the population, often makes being our true selves impossible for us and a complete connection to our true essence is made that much harder than it needs to be.

Well, I wish I could disagree with you Camille but I cannot.

I was going to argue that even I grew up thinking I was human, but then I realized. I really didn't.

Even when I was growing up I always just thought I was weird because I thought of everything differently than everyone around me.

So there went that arguement.


I do agree with you though when you say that doesn't mean they can't try to understand us better. While they can never be us. That doesn't mean they have to hate us. If they don't understand us, they could get to know a few of us. It might bring them to a better understanding.

Then again, a large majority don't even believe in us. So all they see is differently thinking people and so they can never really understand us because they do not understand what we truely are.


And now on a completely different and random point:

I often sit in class and try putting myself in the position of the other kids. I wonder how they see things, and what they would do if they were suddenly made aware of things that we see and how we think.

I find it very interesting to make a list of all the things that I know or see that they don't. It's interesting how long the list can become.

~Farshief

That moment when you realise that they are not actually thinking about the same things you are can be quite a revelation. I have never thought about making a list but I remember sitting in class answering questions, and when it came to my turn being stared at because I was thinking about things like the state of the planet or if that tree has moved since I last looked at it instead of how long it was until break or if there were chips for lunch.
Yes one of my teachers actually asked us what we were thinking about. She was quite cool and didn't mind the tree answer but it earn't me some severe mickey taking from the rest of the kids at school.

so what do you do when you realise you are in essence, one of the wolves circling the flock

Zygo


By the way I have looked and I am still convinced the tree had moved.

You lick your lips, hunker down behind a bush, and send your prayers of thanks to whoever you believe is responsible for making it so.
What else would you do?

Whatever anyone may want to think, humans will never be us and we will never be them. I think they are almost as glad about that as we are.