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Obsidian- 10-04-2008
Do Vampires actually have Clans or Covens like in the movies and the books or is that all just make believe?

Shade- 10-04-2008
I think there are Vampire Clans, groups or maybe families of Vampires who come together because of a shared family history, or school friendships or just social connections.
Covens are witches. 13 usually, who gather together to work magic as a group, under the leadership of a High Priest and/or Priestess.

SolitaryMoonlight- 10-04-2008
Well I have been a member of both a Clan and a Coven, and of the two I'd recommend the Clan. More free spirited and less confining.
My Coven was a group I joined in college, we were just messing around really. You could tell how serious about the whole thing we were, there were only nine of us and we never bothered looking for more people to join us. I now know covens function quite well on less than thirteen, but I didn't know then. I think we all thought we had to have thirteen to have the spells and things work, and still didn't bother recruiting more members. I miss those days. smile.gif

It's a great shame, but once we got a serious member who 'organised' us all into a proper coven of thirteen, and started doing things properly, structuring spells and sabbats, things began to change, the group dynamic altered drastically and after a while we all just kind of drifted away to other things.
I keep in touch with a couple of them, but not regularly and neither of them still practice at all.

My Clan was a thing I started with a few others I met in a nightclub, we met twice a week, before I had the children, and
we'd go out one night to a club or a party together, and the other night we'd meet at one or other of our houses and just talk, about anything and everything to do with Vampires. We'd order Pizza, with garlic, LOL and drink lager and just talk, about how it felt, what it meant, how we came to be where we were, and where we wanted to be in the future. It was just like a real family gathering, like the one I did with my parents every Sunday, but better. There were six of them and they became my second family and I still keep in close touch with all but one of them. One moved away and we all lost touch with her, it was like losing an arm.
Clans don't have to be big organised groups with ideas of world domination, they can be small intimate groups or families who feel a bond each toward the others. It's more than friendship and sometimes feels even more like family than the family I was born to. They are guides for my chidren, Aunty Jo and Uncle Taj, etc, (if I'd been christian they'd be called God parents) and are the people I can count on to be there if I need anything, help, advice, assistance, money, cheering up, bringing down to earth. They are honest and truthful, even when I don't want to hear it, and I don't even want to think of my life without them. They're my Clan and are almost as much a part of me as my children.


Gentleman Death- 10-06-2008
I myself am founder of a vampire clan/coven.
It's a chance for us to meet up and talk about things of a less mundane nature and relax with friends.

terri-vale- 10-06-2008
i think the coven needs a few more members though GD smile.gif then again its hard to find otherkin/donors in a small town.

Gentleman Death- 10-06-2008
I know but we're doing good lol

terri-vale- 10-06-2008
i like being part of a coven, it gives you a sense of identity, makes you feel wanted and apreciated. being a donor its sometimes nice to have that instead of the abuse seem to get off people for what i do.

You just need more members GD smile.gif

Gentleman Death- 10-06-2008
Aye, glad you like it with us T,

More members are hard to find down here.
Im surprised we have this many anyway.

ComeToMe- 10-06-2008
I would join if I lived nearer.
I miss getting together with my friends and just chatting Vampires. I know I have others I can talk to but they are not Vampires so it's not the same.

InDarknessBeWere- 10-07-2008
Well mum and I added you to our small and exclusive coven Lady C. otherkin/witch.gif

At least we get to make magic together, and you know you can always talk to us. smile.gif


Our coven is only mum and I and Lady C here. Though when we go to a get together we have lots of people to talk to about all things Elf and Elf magic.
I have a great time, I think everyone really enjoys those.

ComeToMe- 10-08-2008
Yes you did, and I am enjoying our time together very much.
I never thought that magic could be as much fun as it is. Though a lot of that has to do with the company. smile.gif
I would still enjoy being a solitary practitioner I think, but it wouldn't be as much fun alone.
I know that I have many friends that I can and do talk to, but there are some things you really do need another Vampire to talk about things with, and I miss that. In London there were always plenty of friends to talk to who shared the feelings and needs that Vampires face each day, and although I talk to some of them on MSN, and through email, it's not the same as getting together with them somewhere warm and dark and comfy, with scented candles and a friendly atmosphere and chatting in person.
Now I'm homesick. otherkin/sad-smiley-056.gif otherkin/sad-smiley-002.gif


GD is your coven a coven because you do magic together, or is it what you call your group of Vampires? If it is what you call your group of Vampires why did you choose the word coven instead of clan? I've noticed a lot of people do this and I've never had the chance to ask them why. Hope you don't mind. smile.gif

Lady C.

Gentleman Death- 10-08-2008
I understand about meeting vampires in person, it has a nice quality to it the email and MSN can't achieve. Although I love my MSN convo's with vampires like me.

It's a vampire coven and you could be a member any day my Lady.


I've never really thought about why we refer to it as a coven. I really don't have much of a prefence to clan/coven.
Half our members are witchy so at some points there will be abit of craft taking place i'm sure.

I really have no preference to either term. I guess I just say coven more.
Clan seems more of a family term though... And some people may see it as RPG, altohugh I'm sure the same could be said about coven.

Either way they both descirbe a group such as ours. So i use either.


Thats really no help at all is it? lol

GD

terri-vale- 10-08-2008
does the name matter? i mean such groups go under so many names, house, coven , clan, order...

for me as long as you have a strong connection to the group and you trust the ones within it then it can be classed as anything you want.

from a magickal view, people normaly use circle or order which i like, im not to sure with vampies. i think our coven just chose "house" because it sounded better with Nocturnus Rosa lol

Gentleman Death- 10-08-2008
House Nocturnus Rosa is deffinatly the best of the names we had or the ones not taken lol

Vampires will refer to their groups as covens or clans.

A coven is just a name, however I think depending on the group's veiws it may influence whether their own name is coven, house, clan or one of the other various names that apply to many of the different paths, like family, spiriutal etc.

A house/coven is a group of vampires above the number of 3.
In a house you can get households, similar to local sects, and smaller groups of the same coven, so just a branch off of a larger group.

Covens and clans hold Court, regurally, or as much as they can as (I have found out) it is often hard to find a time when everyone is free.

Court is a meeting of the clan/coven in which the groups activities are discussed amongst other things. Admin can also take place here such as introducing new members and coming up with ideals and rules etc when they first start out.

Clans and covens all have their own rules, initiations, ideals equitteque and rites.

ComeToMe- 10-08-2008
I think for me a group of family members or close friends is a clan, and a group of the same people who would do magic together at some point would be a coven. Just because I have always associated covens with witches. lol

I love the word house for a group of people whoever they are and whatever they do.
And House Nocturnus Rosa is a beauitful name.
I'd be proud to be a member GD, but getting to the meetings might be a little difficult. smile.gif

Holding Court is an age old thing which seems to be losing it's poularity because it is deemed old fashioned. But I like the formality and would much rather 'attend court' than 'blast a crasche'. I think that might be my age though. otherkin/lol.gif

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