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Shadow Stalker- 07-22-2008
Hey every1 sorry i havnt been on latly i have a virus and i am trying 2 get it fixed but anyways somestrange things have been happening in the past couple days while me and my friend were camping out we had a fire going and no wind was blowing but were ever i would walk the smoke and flames would follow and l8r that night we had left are metal hotdog cookers in the flames and they had goting heated to red hot and my friend accidently touched me with it for around 10-15 seconds before he heard me screaming and when he took it off their were no burn marks or any thing so i am kind of confused if any1 has any answers that would be great thanx

Abandoned Faith- 07-23-2008
Wolfie, if it touched you and burned you enough to make you scream I don't know why it wouldn't leave a mark.
Have you ever noticed smoke/flames following you before?
And was it just you or did they follow your friend aswell?

zygopterix- 07-24-2008
hellooooo wolfie.

Well smoke and flame following a person is not too difficult to explain.
It is most likely that you were psy feeding from the fire and so were "pulling" the fire towards you.
The touch of the poker is a little more difficult.
Probably best to think about fire walkers not burning their feet which is all about being in the right state of mind.
I suspect you were simply in the right state of mind for it not to burn you even though (as you were screaming) you expected it to.
I would also speculate that the feeding from the fire was what put you in the right frame of mind not to be burnt by the skewer.

Zygo

InDarknessBeWere- 07-24-2008
Well because I like you I will completely skip over the fact that you went camping without me. otherkin/sad-smiley-056.gif

I do agree with Zygo, what he said makes sense.
If you were feeding from the fire then you would have part of it's energy flowing through you, and so even though you would expect something hot like that to hurt and leave a burn, and your brain told you it hurt, the energy flowing through you could have stopped it from marking your skin.

Has this ever happened to you before, and what did your friend make of it?

I hope your computer gets better soon. Virus's are really destructive, I hope it's a mild one. smile.gif

I was just getting used to having you around again too.
Hurry back. otherkin/687.gif

Shadow Stalker- 07-25-2008
sorry i didnt invite u camping darkness but i didnt have ur # to invite u over otherkin/sad-smiley-056.gif

any was thank you for all the helpfull info and i didnt let my friend see my hand after it was touched with the rod so he just thinks i burnt it really bad

Kes- 07-27-2008
He didn't ask to see it in all it's gory ookiness?? How strange. otherkin/lol.gif
From my experience teenage boys love that kind of thing!

It's a good job for you that he's not the ooky type Wolfie, or that might have been a bit awkward for you, trying to explain the fact that it was perfectly OK.

I wonder if that's how people in these indonesian countries manage to walk over hot coals and things? By taking the energy of the fire into themselves and using this energy to give themselves a kind of immunity to the heat.
It's an interesting theory.

Have you -*test*-('")ed it out again Wolfie? You could try it with something like a candle. Light it and watch the flame. Then run your finger slowly around the top of the candle, in the air slightly away from the flame, say about four inches away. Then you can watch and see if it leans towards your finger. It could be that you have a natural ability where fire is concerned.
I read a book about some ancient peoples who worshipped fire gods, and it said in the book that they could 'charm' a flame, and make it dance. The author had seen it done he said. I would love to see that, it would be amazing.
I tried the thing with the candle for ages after reading that book. otherkin/lol.gif
I could never make it do anything, but from what you've said, you just might.
If you do decide to try it I'd love to know how it goes. otherkin/687.gif

Kes.

Terro- 07-29-2008
Fire walking if very little about absorbing energy, and much more about a state of mind, and the amount of moisture contained in the skin of your feet that can protect you from the hot coals for a limited amount of time. The thought process keeps you from realizing it's really freaking hot, the moisture keeps your skin from burning.

As far as being poked by something extremely hot, the only conclusion is that the surface you were touched with was a poor enough conductor that while it was hot it transferred very little energy to you, or the sleep state kept you from realizing the heat while the moisture worked to protect you. Eventually when the moisture was running low and the temperature was rising, your good old pain receptors shouted loud enough to wake you up.

I have yet to see anything or anyone able to psychically absorb thousands of calories of energy and physically take it out of the equation. My theory anyway.

SolitaryMoonlight- 07-31-2008
The art of fire walking is a mystical experience that takes a great deal of concentration and depends upon a lot more than how much moisture your skin has. It is a Psychic ability that takes years to learn and relies heavily upon meditation and a connection to the fire that many people never achieve.
Of course anyone can do it, they wet their feet in the grass and then run over some barely hot cinders into more wet grass and never feel a thing. And David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear!
One version of firewalking is a true connection to your innerself, a meditative journey to an unconscious link to the energy of the fire. And one is smoke and mirrors.
I have seen monks do fire walking. The true fire walking. There was no wet grass and the cinders glowed with a real heat. They did not speed across them at a pace any race horse would be proud to be able to achieve, but walked sedately across with a serene far away look on their faces. They reached the other side without a mark on them, and they said it was because they connected to the fire and asked that it not burn them, and because they asked in the correct way the fire was kind to them.
I am not going to disagree with some sixty odd year old monks and the thirty plus years they had spent connecting to the thousands of years of their traditions and the memories and teaching of a people so far in advance of us in the West that they make us look like spiritual savages.
But then I have been there and I have seen it. And it aint smoke and mirrors I assure you.

I read your post several times and cannot understand where Terro had got the impression that you or your friend were asleep when these things happened to you?
QUOTE (Terro)
or the sleep state kept you from realizing the heat while the moisture worked to protect you. Eventually when the moisture was running low and the temperature was rising, your good old pain receptors shouted loud enough to wake you up.

I am glad you did not burn Wolfie, and would always advise you to be more careful in the future.
It could be that you absorbed fire energy, or it could be that the poor conducting ability that Terro talked about saved you from serious injury, I wasn't there so I couldn't say. Either way you are a very lucky man.

I like your idea of a -*test*-('") to see if it is a recurring thing to feed from a flame Kes. And a candle would be the perfect way to try and find out.
I would love to have you try it and find out what happens Wolfie. smile.gif
Take care.

zygopterix- 07-31-2008
The absorbtion of fire energy is something I have quite a bit of experience of.
I have always had an immunity to heat that even now I can only attribute to being able to absorb it ( I get hot later when I let it out again).
Despite popular belief I am not foolish enough to stand so close to a fire that I burn and yet I am quite often found extremely close to roaring fires which are scorching the faces of people who are standing considerably further away than I am. I once melted a tshirt while wearing it because I was sitting too close to an electric bar heater and an overhead projecter set fire to my school jumper in front of 20 other kids without me noticing.
When I am near fires both the smoke and flames will follow me as well Wolfie.
I accepted it when I was a kid simply because no matter what I did, it still happened. It was something of a situation where I had to say:
If I want to play with fire, I have to take the consequences, which in my case have been the occasional missing eyebrow and sometimes watery eyes from the smoke.
I have done worse things but those were through being foolish and mostly to do with blowing myself up bomb.gif .

Zygo

Noctem Aeternus- 08-02-2008
I wonder why we have members who get upset if you say you might be able to do something even slightly 'out of the ordinary'.
I am not talking about physical shifting or flying, breathing under water or growing wings, but just something a little different like for instance a Vampire or Were absorbing fire energy and then having more immunity to burning than someone who has not.
Perhaps the reason these people have not seen any Otherkin that can do anything more than an ordinary human being is because they do not wish to see it?

If even here we cannot talk about being different to and not fitting in with the majority of society then we may as well be as human as they are.
We should not have to worry about stating what should be obvious to even the most casual observer. The bodies we inhabit are human.
But if we allow ourselves to be defined and chained by that then we will never progress and we will never develop to be anything more.
I do not come here to discuss how human I am. I come here to discuss my Otherkin life with others who know what I am talking about.

Wolfie, I think it is very possible that what Zygopterix says may be right.
There are many people who have an amicable relationship with fire. You may just be meant to be one of them.




Shadow Stalker- 08-02-2008
Thanx for all this helpfull info and Kes i will try you idea with the candle sorry i havnt been on latly i have been busy around the house and i have a new girlfriend and all that and such

Farshief- 08-03-2008
I for one, have always noticed that fire and smoke come towards me. The wind could be blowing the exact opposite direction, and it would find a way to come at ME. It used to get so annoying, trying to get close to a fire and getting chocked because all the smoke wouldn't leave me alone.

As for the fire not leaving marks. This has happened a few times. I generally love fire and used to have problems with it because I would light stuff on fire because I loved feeling the waves of heat flowing from them, and how they didn't seem to bother me as much as everyone else.

I once set a roll of toilet paper on fire to see how fast it would burn. It went up pretty quickly.

I've gotten now where I can control my body temperature pretty well, but when I go to someone's house, they usually start complaining because it suddenly got about ten degrees hotter, and then it mysteriously cools off after I leave.

More on the subject of flames or extreme heat not leaving marks. I have grabbed a metal fence post up out of the fire before and it was red hot(I somehow didn't notice before I picked it up) and of course my brain screamed at me to drop it, so I did it, but it never did more than sting for about thirty seconds.

~Farshief

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