I'm not sure which way to put this, but I would love it if someone could help me.

If the Shadows are where the first kin came from, and where all kin came from, which kin are they? Or which kin were they originally?
I think I am a little confused. Well I know I am a little confused. But I'm especially confused about this.

Ok time for me so share my "vast" knowledge

Well i asked this question early when i first joined vampyres and they would say no1 new so thats Wolfies knowledge of the day or night depending were you are

In a way you answered the question already.
I believe Shadow is all kin.

They are Were, Vampire, Therian, Elemental or Dragon etc.

Shadow are the beings that happen when you mix light and abscence of light.
Shadow is the first of us and when Shadow created life it was Kin that it made.

Zygo

dang are there still shadows around today?

(not ordinary shadows)

there are indeed Wolfie.

Ask around and you might even find one or two.

Zygo

OK. Let me see if I got this straight.
Shadows were the first kin and they were just shadows?
Then the differences in shade formed into the different types of kin and there became shadow-weres and shadow-vampires etc. Then their children became just simply weres and vampires and such. So we are not all shadows but we are all related to/descended from them?

Tell me if I am still way off base won't you please?

Well you sound to have it pretty much down to me Darke.

Anyone else who can add info to this?
How about you Shade? You're shadow too............... How far off base are we?

I think that is an excellent way of describing the line.

That makes me Shadow too,
My father is shadow so following Darkes excellent logic I am Shadow Phoenix.

I wonder,to Lady C and DarkeDesire, could we add Darkes post to the information section.

Zygo

speaking of shadows, I have these friends that are literally shadows. They're in the form of big cats, but i think that's only because that's what i'm the most comfortable with. Sometimes they freak me out when they show up when im not expecting it, but mostly they are like bodyguards. When i'm freaked out they come and walk beside me. I've never had a human who could see them, at least not that i know of. you'd think they'd make some sort of exclamation or at least a comment if they did... but anyway. They walk with me when i feel the need to not walk alone. What are they? i know that they are made of shadows and they help me when i ask, but they aren't my pets and i don't control them. They come easier at night though dusk and dawn are the very best. I haven't heard them speak to me, though i've tried, other than the feelings they send me. They've helped me avoid groupings of humans a tiny female like me should avoid and when they're near humans don't come within 2 feet of them & will move out of the way even if they don't realize it. I don't think there's anymore detail i could give, but do you know what they could possibly be?

Since I cannot state things as fact anymore, (I get jumped on, stomped on and made to feel foolish by certain people whenever I do that). I have to say to me they sound like the otherkin version of guardian angels.
Much more 'us' and much more actually useful than your usual human version but guardians none the less.

I have always had something similar whenever I have been a human, and (Please don't tell the certain people Shh!) I have actually been one of these guardians once when not 'in body'. It's a big responsibility guardian-ing someone special. You must have big things ahead of you.

haha. that's sweet. makes me feel all warm and special inside. What does it mean when there's two sometimes three? Is it bad that i call them when i'm afraid just because i'm walking alone in the dark and there's unknown groups nearby? Am i abusing my friends? (just thought i'd ask since you've been a guardian).

Hi Katie
I know you didn't ask me but I would have thought if they are guardians, then thats just the job they are supposed to be doing isn't it.
I have a Lion guardian that shows up sometimes.But I don't see him outside, he's always somewhere inside.

Wild

thanks, i figured that it wasn't that bad, i just can't help but feel like i'm using people when i ask them for help. I think it's because i'm so accustomed to taking care of myself and helping and protecting myself as well as others that being the one protected weirds me out. haha. And i feel like a fool when i'm afraid. I realize it's a necessary part of our make, keeps us safe and whatnot, but it also hampers the thought processes, reasoning and reaction. So feeling weird, like a fool, and not knowing the rules makes me feel like i'm taking advantage of them or something.

yeah. but thanks! makes me feel better about it.

It is not unusual for a person to have as many as six guardians, of different makes and natures for different perspectives and abilities. So it doesn't mean anything bad.

No you are absolutely not abusing them or their presence. They are there to help you in whatever capacity you need in order to help you function to the best of your ability. They will be there when you need them and also sometimes when you don't.

It is for just this reason that you should call on them when you are frightened, because if knowing you have their back-up helps calm you down enough to regain control of these functions, you are back to performing at optimum potential again in no time.
They will be there even if you think you might possibly need them, at some time in the near future maybe perhaps. They will not mind, I can promise you that, because I never minded at all.

My guardian-ing was done for a lovely lady, with a beautiful spirit who is no longer corporeal. I miss knowing that she is 'in' the world, as it is a poorer place without her influence, and it was a privilege to know her.

Darkness

Sorry about your lady In Darkness Bewere obviously for you to be here she must have moved on but it's still a shame when one so light and liked is taken.

I have a variety of different guardians, although not six, that have helped me on occasion.
I wonder what else I would, or will have eventually.

Wild