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Farshief- 11-19-2008
Just random questioning of mine here. I was reading about Christian Otherkin, and it is shocking just how much some people like Christians treat so many of us badly because of who we are or who we hang out with. On the flip side, a good, non-judgmental Christian comes along and can't prove his point because a lot of Otherkin kind are so used to thinking Christian = bad.

Personally, I think it's a bit sad. I can search something on Google, and thirty different Otherkin sites come up on the list. I find it strange that a lot of these sites(won't name any names), have members that will attack someone for what they say they are. I know that us just like anyone else are people, we make mistakes just like everyone else, but we make more of an effort than a lot of people I've seen.

I don't know, perhaps I don't make any sense at all. It is later than I am usually on the computer. I just thought I would ask your opinions on the above subjects. I know it's probably been talked about a thousand times before.

So if you want me to not bring up this topic again I shall kindly delete my post,
~Farshief

Serenity- 11-19-2008
I actuall understand what youre saying but the thing is we are so used to being put down all the time thata we tend to lash out at almost anyone, sometimes sadly before we even know what it is they want to say otherkin/sad-smiley-002.gif
I ve been guilty of that one on numerous occasions and almost lost a really good friend because of it. But its not all our fault, if society in general hadnt been such otherkin/censored.gif otherkin/censored.gif towards us we probably would have been more forgiving. But centuries of your kind being put down will have quite a undesirable effect on your tolerance level otherkin/angry-smiley-005.gif

And then to top it all off, when your young and unsure and you finally feel like you found somewhere that you can belong (Otherkin websites) your made to feel even more unwanted by the very people you ask for help. Its like a lose lose situation.

Though Im not trying to make excuses for myself or anyone, I personally am wary of who I acknowledge as friends or who I even just acknowledge

zygopterix- 11-19-2008
I think in both cases fear comes into play.
Fear of the unknown powers an awful lot of arguments and attacks.
For instance take a devout Christian with no prior knowledge of Kindred and tell them you are a WereCat.
If they do believe you they are very likely going to feel that their faith and world has been threatened by something they do not understand.
If they don't believe you they are likely to think you are just plain nuts.

Some of the people on Otherkin sites do not like to think that anyone is as different as they are or that any other otherkin exist or that anyone knows more than they do.
So anyone who says they are Kin or tells it, how it is, or comes across as being confident and at ease with themselves and everything else, instantly becomes a threat to that person.
No one is allowed to be as good at it as they are...... otherkin/banned.gif

Unfortunately the truth is that usually people like that are really quite sad and trying to look important instead of help people like themselves.

Zygo

Obsidian- 11-19-2008
I don't get why people on these sites are so afraid of someone who wants to identify with their Kin instead of with their shell.
The last place I was on told me that I was a human just like they were, and that making up stories was just sad. That I should "grow up and get over myself" or I would be banned.
I told them something that wasn't polite AT ALL, and offered to demonstrate how it could be done with either pictures done in comic strip form pose by pose, or a personal appearance and hands on help!

I bet you can guess what happened next. otherkin/wink.gif

Farshief- 11-20-2008
I find it very sad that a lot of people have to go through site after site of un-accepting people of the type like Obsidian described above:
QUOTE (Obsidian)
The last place I was on told me that I was a human just like they were, and that making up stories was just sad. That I should "grow up and get over myself" or I would be banned.


I was really very lucky being in that the first forum I was on that had anything to do with us was Vampyres, and that led me here. So I've had a much easier journey than most.

Here's a question for anyone who wants to answer. Do you think there will ever been a solution to this problem? Will we ever learn our lesson with this problem?

~Farshief


Noctem Aeternus- 11-20-2008
I am not sure the lesson is ours to learn.
I am aware of how conceited that sounds, however I still believe that the intolerence does not come from us.
All most of us seem to want is acceptance. Not belief, we don't want to be followed or worshipped, we just want people to listen to what we have to say and not tell us we have no right to think this way.
It should not be so hard to listen without judging, but apparently it is.
Until we can all be open and honest without fear of ridicule and censure then there will be no progress.
Please note that I do not say without understandable curiosity and friendly questions, I say without ridicule and censure.
Until we can feel comfortable enough to say what we think, feel and believe without anyone jumping on us and calling us 'liars', 'wannabes', 'fluffies', or trying to shout down our beliefs with their own, then there can be no solution.

Farshief- 11-21-2008
My apologies, when I said 'We' in my post above, I meant Us and them. I should have said that, it didn't occur to me though. Never-the-less, your point stands.

~Farshief

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