Well my theory about Kin's existance is actually very simple at it's core. (forwarning I've adopted the Darwin model we represent the humans on it though)

We are simply more evolved, Not mutants because we were here first but just more evolved. The source has energized us and made us what we are. Kin can do things that humans can't even imagine, complicated no, confusing not at all. I'll use myself as an example I can communicate with another sentient being who lives inside me plus can sift between the personalities and knowledge of my past lives, Donkeyman can't even imagine doing this (sorry your my example). How is that different then opening a door? We (and humans) use are complex hands and thumb to turn a doorknob while dogs can't even dream of doing that. Humans are to dogs and animals what we are to them.

But hold on there's more, I also figured out what the missing link between Kin and humans would be, The insane people. Why you might ask? Because Humans (the real ones I ditched the comparison) have a defence mechanism in there brain so that they can only use 10% of there muscle mass as to not damage them, Insane people don't have this so they appear super strong. I believe that we are the same way only our connection to the source repairs the muscle we damage.

Sorry this was so long and I'm wondering what people think of it

Wolfbrother

I've been thinking the same type of thing. That mundanes and kin are basically the same, kin have simply moved on to a higher plane of thought, reasoning, ability and acceptance. As if, using your door analogy, our doors are open wide where as the mundanes don't even see the door behind them. It reminds me of buddhist monks and their zen sayings and how it's all because they've reached a level of understanding. for those who haven't even stepped on the path the monks make no sense, for those who have traveled the path a little it makes some sense, and for those who are walking by them side by side it makes perfect sense. It all depends on if you acknowledge the path, if you choose to walk the path and if you decide to learn new things along the way. i suppose you could say we have transcended beyond the box that mundanes live in.

I have always made sense.

I will be very interested to see what the others think of your theory Wolfbrother.

Wraith.

I have no comment to make.
Since I am neither a human essence nor insane it has no relevance.

Too be honest Wraith I was trying to come up with a theory to explain you (for me to help understand you know yourself already) but I couldn't because how does all that creative energy join to become a sentient being?

Wolfbrother

I am sorry but your theory made no sense to me. I read it several times, but still could make no kin connection to it.
And you lost me completely with your missing link portion.
There is no missing link between kin and humans. At least no more than there could be one between humans and the slime found at the bottom of a pond. Both contain the various possibilities of life, but on such vastly different levels that comparison would be ludicrous.
Though thinking about it, humans and pond slime are more closely related than humans and kin, as at least both the former are carbon based lifeforms.
As I understand it, kin are formed from energy and essence and the bodies are'hijacked' or 'borrowed' whatever you want to call it in order to facilitate interaction with solid objects in each existence.

As for Wraith, I have often found that trying to explain oneself to others is like trying to untangle a huge ball of fuzzled twine. The deeper in you go, the worse the problem becomes and the more fuzzled things get.
Good luck trying to explain yourself Wraith. If in fact you choose to do so, which I have to say I should not!

I am not a stupid person, but I do not understand.
I have spent a long time now coming to the realisation that I am not human, at least not inside. It has taken a great deal of work on my part and quite a lot of pain and anguish too.
I cannot relate to your theory and apply it to myself.
I will never consider myself a human being who simply has greater knowledge and the advantage of being further along on the evolutionary ladder.
I have the spark. I feel it, and sometimes lately I even see it. It shoots from my fingers and lights up the sky. Humans don't have that and, from what I understand, they never will.
No, I'm sorry Wolfbrother, but it appears that you and Katy are alone so far on your magical mystery tour.

Safe journey.

Thumper is my main man on this one. All hail the bunny philosopher.

Darkness.

Previously I was speaking about the awakening process, and didn’t really explain why I think the theory that mundanes and kin could be connected. Wasn’t really paying much attention apparently, so let me attempt to convey my reasoning:

The Source is the source of all things. This means that everything came from the Source and so everything has Source in them. Time has passed and everything has been influenced by other things changing and forming it away from pure source. So everything is a cousin to everything else at the core of it since everything is originally Source. Awareness is the only thing that really differentiates one thing from another. Their awareness, perception, and their willingness to change create the unique differences in beings. Some beings have been influenced by other things so much that they have lost their connection to the source in such a complete way that they can't connect to it directly or even indirectly. Losing that connection forces them to turn in on themselves and being so wrapped up in themselves makes them turn against any abilities of the 'soul'. Our abilities being connections to others (making them unable to truly understand or empathize with other beings), the ability to remember past existences, psychic abilities (feeding, sensing, what have you) in effect they turn so completely upon themselves that they become numb to the web of connections that are interlaced with all things existing. They become mundane. Some mundanes can become aware of what they're missing, can know of the world beyond their box, but just seeing it through a window doesn’t mean you can reach it. Some haven't drifted so far as to be completely sealed within themselves and someday might actually become other. I know for several lives I was completely unaware of being kin. I was mundane then. There was no difference between me and them until I decided to stop going with what was happening and decided to think, and ask, and explore. I saw through the window and found it was cracked open. It hurt realizing that I was no longer as those around me, but it felt good to no longer be wandering blindly along in my box. Mundanes are shut in their box, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. If they had the ability to see beyond themselves, to look outside their selfish lives, to search for something other than what their mundane society offers, they have the chance to find their open window. Some may find it, some may have nailed their window shut (but those would probably never think to look outside themselves). Their biggest problem is believing that this is the only way things are. If they have the ability to understand that there might be more, that what they hold dear to them might be wrong, then they have the chance to change, to adapt, and to grow. This life is too complex, too great and too beyond anything one person can really understand that believing in impossibilities is self defeating. Which is why I will admit that I could be wrong on this front. It isn’t impossible that humans and kin have nothing in common whatsoever. But neither is it impossible that they do. To me, all of this feels right. I can feel the answering song of the Source in everyone I pass if I listen hard enough, most cases the song is very quiet. I believe everyone has the chance to be more if they want to, the road is long and hard, but if they put the effort in finding more, while being honest about it, then they have a chance to find it. I can’t help but think that we, who according to mundanes are impossible, shouldn’t think it’s impossible that other strange things occur, such as them being able to become us after a lot of work. I’m not saying that this is right, but I’m saying it’s a possibility.

kat

first just because you were unaware of it does not make you mundane/human. I wish everyone could meet another true Kin and see the difference between human and Kin.
Try examining yourselves and your behaviour in a detailed analytical fashion then answer honestly and see the difference between yourself and even enlightened humans.

I have to ask just how hard are you listening ...of course universal energy is everywhere it has to be by dint of being universal .

Just because it is there does not mean they can access it or recognise it or even manipulate it. And just because you can feel it does not mean it influences them, even slightly, on any level .
Kin work on an energy level so vastly different to humans that you might as well be comparing torch batteries to a nuclear power plant.

There are times when I truly wish that Kin could see everything objectively without the bias of feeling like an outcast.
Too often that detachment makes awakening kin strive to be back in with "in the crowd" and colours their perception of self so much that they start to place Kindred attributes on to any one who shows even a slight resemblance to Otherkin.

From the human side.
Mediums and psychics are the so called enlightened humans. yes?

Ask any medium what they see or hear when they connect to the dead.
they will tell you Spirit but they will only tell you of human spirit occasionally one will hear pets. But none will ever tell you they see any further than that...they do not have the capacity to even percieve of what they call mythical beasts of fae or flames or any other of the miriad of beings out there that are not human...Not one..unless they are Kin.

Zygo