I keep reading on different forums that most Vampires feed from humans.
Whether you are Sang or Psi (which one genius described as a physic Vampire. LOL) as a Vampire you feed from humans.
Is that still the case?
I mean I suppose for many Sanguinarians it would be, but even Psi, when there are so many more appetising forms of energy around than that which is cast off by humans, are apparently, if these forums are correct, still taking energy from humans.

Do you think that's right, and if so why would that be?

There is still a great number of Vampires that don't recognize or support the notion of Otherkin, and many more that while they don't deny the existence of Otherkin, they scoff at them having found many to be unintelligent fools who reek of roleplaying idiots (Thanks to a great number of loud mouthed fluff heads who ruin it for those really wanting to step forward).

Vampirism is most basically an energy deficiency... you need prana to fill it, does not matter the source. You need protein to live a nutritionally sound life, doesn't matter if you get it from beef or fish... you just need it from somewhere.

It certainly does appear to be the case.

Perhaps it is just an education and acceptance problem Darke.
Just as I do not eat burgers and chicken meatballs all the time and instead seek pure foods (organic, unprocessed, wild food etc)
I seek to take energy from pure sources.
I also don't take it from other people because there is such a huge mixture of emotion and feeling buried in it that processing it would detract from the final benefits of using it.

If Other kin don't know....don't care or won't accept new ideas then no amount of telling them will work.
Passing on common sense information about feeding is one thing but if no one wants to hear it then it doesn't matter what you tell people they will carry on using the old way regardless.

If they have a go at it and see honestly what the benefits are then that might make a difference but until then many will just swear blind that it is rot and doesn't work.

Zygo

As a Sang I fed from humans, properly -*test*-('")ed and clean humans of course.
Everyone who is responsible understands that both the person giving the blood and the person taking the blood must be clean and have been -*test*-('")ed to ensure it.

As a Psi I never have taken directly from the energy of a human. And the energy they 'give off' has too much of the feel of a waste product to me to give me an appetite.
I prefer clean energy like storms, gales, even sunlight when filtered through a Crystal. Though the BEST energy comes from the local nuclear power plant.

I also agree with Zygo that even if we find feeding from these natural sources to be much better, if no-one else is ready to listen we would be wasting our time trying to press the point. Mention it and see how it is recieved, and if more information is requested then go ahead, but if the idea is rejected then instead of trying to force them to accept what we say as a good idea, then we should back off and wait until the time comes when they are ready to listen. Forcing your ideas on another never has a good outcome, even when your intentions are good.

I used to take from non kin, in fact when I first began to Psi feed I couldn't help it. Once I learned control and a bit of discipline I stopped feeding by accident and fed occasionally from them and remained hungry for the rest of the time. lol
Then I decided that I really didn't want to depend on finding someone to feed from so I started looking into Psi feeding from different sources and now have no need to feed from living things of any kind. I use elemental sources and use crystals to gather moonlight, which I absolutely love the feel and taste of.
I think many kin do still feed from the non kin around us. Their energy is liberally released and freely available for most who want it, so it is easier to feed from them than to find another, possibly better way. But as Zygo said, if they prefer it then there is no point trying to press another way onto them. We can only introduce options, it is then up to the individual to decide to try it, or not.

Feeding from humans was something I did when I was much younger, but not for quite a while now.
I think younger kin do it because of how easy they believe it is. They believe that energy from humans is the best that is available and that it takes next to nothing to absorb, and of course it is well known that when Otherkin feed, no matter what kin type they might be, they feed from humans in some way, and if it is good enough for everyone else, why would they look for anything else?
The fact that they probably should doesn't occur to them. Human energy can be toxic if you are not careful who you take it from, how much you take and ensure that you filter it properly before absorbing it.
For this reason I think it is a good thing to try and introduce as many kin as possible to feeding from other sources, not only for safety reasons but also because it is more convenient to be able to feed from the elements. You don't need to find a human or a group of humans when you're hungry.

I have never taken energy from anyone non kin deliberately. The couple of times I have had energy from one it didn't do me any good at all. I felt 'wrong' for days afterward.
So I am trying very hard to train myself not to pick up the stuff that is floating about, and I try to make sure that i am not hungry when I go out, as that is just asking for trouble I think.
I also think that if we could all learn to feed from Universal sources that we would all feel better in ourselves, but it does seem to be a popular belief that we all feed from humans. I blame TV and Movies, silly books and comics, but then I always do!

Yes I think most people, both kin and non kin, still believe that we have to get our energy from humans in some way.
It's a shame really because it is a bit of a backwards way of thinking in the 21st century.
I mean it is a bit like having had the gift of fire for three hundred years but still, after all that time, eating your meat uncooked, by ripping hunks of raw flesh off the bone with your teeth!

YUK!
That's one of the reasons that I'm hoping I'm not a Vampire!
I really don't want to feed from humans.

I think I'd quite like to be a Unicorn or a Were Rabbit or something harmless like that. Something that eats Astral grass.

I hate to be the one to break this to you Rosa, but Vampires are not the only kin who feed. You will find that most kin need to feed the kin essence they carry in some way or another. Mostly kin who say they have not, or do not need to feed are doing so without their knowledge. They are picking up energy from around and about, and often feel awful for no reason they can explain. I wish these kin would just try conciously and carefully feeding for a week or two, and see how much better they would feel. But most times you cannot convince these people that they would benefit from a good feed for their essence, and if you try they get vey upset.
But if you ever feel tired or irritable, just try picking up energy from the sun or the moon, (I can tell you how if you want to know) and see if that helps you, it probably will, whatever kin you turn out to be.
But even if you are a Vampire, you do not need to feed from humans, there are lots of people here who can tell you of other ways to get the energy you need, so don't worry about it too much.

I think most Kin need to take in some kind of energy from somewhere but it really doesn't have to be humans.
However this belief comes striaght from the Myths and Legends about many kinds of Otherkin written down through the ages by the scholars and learned people from places as diverse as Egypt, Ancient Greece, Rome and it's dominions, Syria, Romania, England, Africa and India. In fact most of the countries who have speech and writing of some kind have made mention in their recorded history of the various creatures who rise from the dead/hide in the shadows/creep out from the jungle/come up from under the ground or down from the heavens and 'feed' on the young/old/sick/unwary/drunk/foolish people of the region. Those who have no written records keep their history alive through paintings, dance, and story telling, which whilst perhaps more open to interpretation are none the less usually quite faithful to the original concept of the stories they tell.
And even though most of the rest of these accounts continue by making accusations like feeding on the blood of newborns or from farm animals, or changing into bats/snakes/wolves/cats/etc, being summoned by acts of sex/witchcraft/blood letting/sacrifice, and removing people by spiriting them away or luring them away, tempting them away or forcing them to accompany them to some lost land/dark place/far off planet etc etc etc...
We can dismiss these as rubbish, we can as Kin look at each of these accusations and say "I would never do something like that." But feeding from humans most newcomers and many who profess to have been kin 'for many lifetimes', seem to accept without question.
I have to confess it is a mystery to me.

I've met many a vampire who said that taking energy from anywhere or anything but humans was nowhere near the same. Many 'kin take energy from humans, and I don't have a problem with that as long as it's done ethically. If you have an educated and willing donor, more power to you. If you don't...well, I equate stealing energy with raping an unconscious victim and stealing blood is just plain assault.

The taking of blood without permission would of course be assault and It is considered bad form to take energy from a person without permission as this would be similar to assault too.

The energy vampires speak of when they take energy from a group is a kind of pool or cloud of energy created by the interaction of a crowd of people and as such does not belong to any one person at all. So is not actually stealing.
It's not sensible to feed on that energy but it's not stealing.

Zygo

I have met many Vampires who say the same thing, and yet Vampires did not originally feed on human energy. Before there were humans Vampires fed on natural elemental energy. Then an idea that seemed good at the time provided them with a ready supply of energy and with that came a whole heap of problems that none of us were ever to be able to overcome.

I knew a Vampire from Cleveland who only fed from his spouse. As an aniversary gift to them I got her a tattoo of a Nutrition Facts label to go on her.. well in any case.



Couldn't resist,


Grace to you and Peace,
Ezaraudin