I dont think its exclusive and you dont need to be a member to get too it.
But drawing up our own is a good idea.
AYE!

Really they couldn't claim ownership of such an article as there have been many drafts of such documents over the years.

There are usually two parts to it, one from the donor's perspective, and one from the Vampire's.
The donors section usually includes statements like:

• I understand that I have responsibilites to myself and to the Vampire I am a donor for, to keep myself healthy and free of artificial stimulants (unless by prior arrangement) before I donate my blood.
• I promise to have the necessary mental and physical health checks regularly.
• I understand that I have the right to refuse to donate at any time, but by signing this agreement I promise not to withhold my blood from the Vampire I am a donor for for my own personal gain or satisfaction.
• I expect to be given time for previous wounds to heal, and I expect to be given at least two days notice whenever possible, though requests for donations without this period of notice would be considered in emergency situations.
• I understand that if at any time my Vampire feels uncomfortable accepting donations from me they may cancel our agreement and walk away without comebacks of any kind.
  
• I will keep myself only for the Vampire I am a donor for unless an agreement is made between us that I may donate to another. I also promise to ensure that having reached such an agreement with my Vampire, any other person I donate to has had the necessary mental and physical health checks regularly and is fit and healthy in every way.

Signed by donor..........................................................................................


Date............................................................................................................


Witnessed...................................................................................................


Date.............................................................................................................


From the Vampires side it would include statements like:

• I understand that I have responsibilities to myself and my donor to keep myself healthy and free from artificial stimulants (unless by prior arrangement) before I accept my donation.
• I promise to have the necessary mental and physical health checks regularly.
• I understand that my donor has the right to refuse to donate at any time.
• I promise that I will give my donor time for their previous wounds to heal, and I promise that I will never pressure or threaten my donor in any way in order to obtain a donation.
• I understand that if at any time my donor feels uncomfortable donating to me they may cancel our agreement and walk away without comebacks of any kind.
• I understand that the choice of donation is always the donors, and that they have the right to refuse at any time and for any reason.
• I promise that whilst under contract to my donor I will not at any time accept donations from any other person unless an agreement has been made between my donor and I that I may do so.
• I also promise to ensure that having reached such an agreement with my donor, any other persons I accept donations from have had the necessary mental and physical health checks regularly and are fit and healthy in every way.
• I acknowledge that it is only because of the generosity and kindness of my donor that I am able to feed in this way, and so I further promise to treat my donor with respect at all times and in all situations.

Signed by Vampire....................................................................................................


Date..........................................................................................................................


Witnessed..................................................................................................................


Date...........................................................................................................................


The signatures on this document should be witnessed by an impartial third party, and the document itself should be renewed at least every 6 months (though preferrably every 3 months).

By signing this document and keeping to the agreement within both donor and Vampire are afforded some small amount of much needed security and safety. Abuses of position rarely occur between those who have an understanding of this kind.
These are a very good idea in my opinion.

So just off the top of your head do you have any ideas for things we could put in ours Noctem??

You may feel free to use this one in whole or in part.
It is mine to do with as I wish.
And so now yours too.

Oh, wow.

Thank you.
It is a wonderful example and I think it covers everything.

Can anyone think of anything it has missed, or anything that needs rephrasing or rewording?

I accept that it may need bringing into the 21st century. I have been using it for a while now, and although common sense and decency never go out of date, perhaps there may be things happening in the Vampire community now that I am not aware of.

I highly doubt that.

I can't wait to see what the others have to say about the document.

I am not a vampire or a donor, but I appreciate good ideas and common sense.
It is sound common sense to have an agreement that reflects the needs of both parties, and this one I particularly like because it clearly shows that donors and Vampires share the same issues, and shows both sides of those issues. It gives a fair and equal share of the responsibility to both parties and could be easily adapted to accomodate any special needs or requirements one or the other may have.

Excellent.

I am not a Vampire or donor either, but it looks extremely fair and straightforward to me.
I don't think anyone would have any trouble understanding it, and it has as much chance of being abided by as any other elective, self-binding contract out there.

yeah the one i signed is very much like that. it covers the basics but i still want to add the tea and biscuits bit on the end

to be honest i think that a big part of it should be "i should have full trust and faith as well as friendship in my vampire/donor" they always seem to miss out the important emotional factors.

am i the only one who feels there should be an age limit on donoring too? i mean there is nothing to stop young teens donoring without thinking about it too much. ok i admit i fell inot this trap and started donoring at about 15 which i feel was a bit too young, i learnt from my mistakes and i hink others should heed them.

(reminder to update my contract)

I think the tea and biscuits is an excellent idea terri. You get them every time you donate blood for a blood drive, and this is technically no different.

I don't know how close an emotional tie most Vampires would have to their donors so I cannot comment on that point. Could you explain it a little more so I can understand it better please?

The age limit is, in my opinion a very important point that it is too easy to over look. You must be 18 to vote, and 16 to smoke and have sexual intercourse in the UK, and older in many areas of the US, but you can elect to give blood to someone else at any age. I think an age limit would be an excellent idea, but would have no idea how it could be enforced. Any ideas terri?

Does anyone else agree? If you do, do you have any ideas on any of these points?

Isn't the food and drink used to help your body begin blood production again ASAP? If that is the case then tea and biscuits or toast would be a good idea.

Wouldn't an age limit be something that would mean the Vampires involved promising NOT to take blood from a donor under the age of ???? Whatever age is decided on?

the problem is that there would be no way to enforce it, it would just be a recomendation from olde donors and vamps to the younger ones.
i would say 18 is a good age because that is the age you can legally give blood to the NHS. however ofcourse there would be a problem for younger vampires because they may not know any older donors.

the whole thing with the vampire/ donor connection dosnt have to be amazingly strong, but a foundation is always good. you will find that my donoring and feeding you become close to the other person anyway, you are taking someones life essence to be honest.
i just dont like how these donors and some vampires go around and promote themselves on the internet asking for anyone to come forward. i personaly think that a donor should be someone close to you or atleast someone you trust, not someone who you just picked up of a site.
donoring is a big commitment and i feel it is something that should be sacred in a way or treated with respect.

younger donors tend to be fickle so i would think 18 would be a proper age for donors. Also some vampires that i have known tend to harm their donors and regardless of circumstance something should be done to ensure donor protection.

Here are some ideas that terri posted on our covens forum boards.

"things for a donor to consider:

having a tetanus is always a good start. as a child you should have one but you will also need a re-boost at the age of 14. its always best to have one every 6-8 years.

get yourself checked out every 6-8 months. blood diseases, though uncommon can be transmitted very easily and can be potential life threatening.

infection are another risk. make sure that the wound is clean after the feeding and that you treat it with creams and keep it clean.



things for the vampire to consider:

its not just the donor who needs to be -*test*-('")ed. blood deseases can be transmitted both ways, so always make sure your clean.

check your equipment before each use, make sure it is fully sterile as you can pass on diseases with dodgy equipment.

make sure your donor is getting checked out regally. this is a partnership so you will be trusting each other with your health.

make sure that you two communicate. issues such as little infections such as a cold, up to your sexual histories should be out on the table.

if you have more then one donor you should always be honest with them. dont lie about how many others you have, if you have them. its polite and necessary for each donor to know who else you are taking from. they are putting their health in your hands so give them a bit of respect.

aftercare:
make sure that you dont just leave your donor after feeding. offer them food, especially chocolate as they might be feeling light headed and they will need to bing their blood sugar level back up to normal.
make sure you dress the wound correctly and cleanly.
make the donor feel comfortable at all times. its never good for either of you to feel uneasy during feeding."


As for age, you can give blood at 17 on the NHS.
I believe that if the vampire is 18 or over then the donor should be too, or a few months under.

For the minors, donors are hard to come by. So donors for them should be there own ages and all safety measures and precautions considered.

I shall included this kind of detail in my articles, which i hope to have done by half way through december. being a student means a busy life
and my subjects at college require attention first and effort. These articles howver I could write in my sleep, it's just finding time


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