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WhisperInTheDark- 10-24-2008
I wonder, if the science was possible, would anyone here consider freezing the body they are inhabiting right now, and moving on into another life, to come back to this body later, be thawed out, and continue life in this body in some future time?

Obviously I understand that for those who believe themselves to be displaced persons this question would be hypothetical, as displacements do not believe they have a choice of future lives, but please don't let that stop you from answering. Even if you don't believe it to be possible, the question is only IF it were possible would you, and if you did how long would you leave it? One life-time, two, or more?
How far ahead would you want this body to travel?

I believe if it were possible that I might consider it, just as an experiment. I am fond of this body, it works well and does not suffer from any major defects. I would want this body to see the 23rd century. I could see this body doing very well living somewhere like the Moon or even Mars. Travelling between worlds and experiencing a connection with the cosmos that it could never even dream of.

Byakko- 10-24-2008
I wouldn't. One lifetime as a human is more than enough for me.

WhisperInTheDark- 10-24-2008
As I understand it, as a displaced soul you will have no choice about what you come back as next though, so how can you be sure that you won't come back as another human?
Do you only live each body existence once?

Byakko- 10-24-2008
I don't know, but I like to think that I'm human now as a cosmic boo boo and will be a tiger in body the next time around. At any rate, I wouldn't choose to be human. If for some reason I ended up living another life as one, well then stuff happens otherkin/lol.gif

Nishyla- 10-25-2008
i wouldn't do this body cuz it has to many complications with it but perhaps a more healthier one i would preserve for a few hundred years..see if it could..adapt to the new century

Cobweb- 10-25-2008
I'm with Izabella, the body I'm in now sucks.
Too many allergies.
Though of course by the time I thawed myself out they could have cures for them I wouldn't want to risk it.

If I get a better body next time, who knows?
I wouldn't want to wait too long though, or I might find that I'm in possession of an obsolete model. The Source might have upgraded everyone by then, and of course if they had I would be no use for anything in an outdated body. otherkin/lol.gif

zygopterix- 10-25-2008
Heres a thought for you what if you did that and when they revived your body, some one else stepped in ...then what would you do?

Cobweb- 10-25-2008
Kick their butt till they let go! otherkin/lol.gif

Cobweb- 10-25-2008
I know this is double posting but I'm hoping I'll be forgiven just this once.

They couldn't really do that could they Zygo?
I mean if I had them thaw out my once upon a time body at a certain time it couldn't really be hijacked by some roving essence could it? Wouldn't an essence know that someone else had a prior claim to the body? Or doesn't it work like that?

I know you probably don't know the answers to these questions, but you asked the original question so I am turning the tables on you now. smile.gif

Byakko- 10-25-2008
It could happen. If it did, one of two things could happen. The other entity could kick your soul out if it was strong enough *or* your soul and the foreign one could cohabitate in your body. That's the basic mechanism behind walk-ins. Another soul walks in and either takes up residence with the current one or kicks the first one out. It's also how some multiples are "created" for lack of a better word.

ComeToMe- 10-26-2008
In the first instance Byakko is correct, though I think we should call them essences rather than entities, it would be less confusing since that was what Cobweb called them when she asked her question. Another essence could prevent you from regaining your rightful place in the body if it were strong enough Cobweb, though it would have to be extremely strong as the bond between you as the rightfully owning essence and the body would be very hard to break. The body would already be tuned to your vibration and it would take a lot of work to retune it to perform for someone else.

However in the second instance Byakko is mistaken. I have never heard of a multiple being created in such a violent and aggresive manner. Multiples are usually created when subsequent essences emerge in order to help the first essence with something it is not equipped to handle alone.
And this is absolutely nothing like a walk-in, where the essence has been removed or has removed itself and so has relinquished all claims on the body, at least for now. Or where the essence already in the body moves over for a new essence to take the body where it is for some reason (usually accident, trauma, or illness) unable to take it itself.
For a correct and even scientifically accepted discription of a Walk-In please read this section of the web-site which I admit with shame has been under construction since last year. otherkin/sad-smiley-056.gif

http://otherkin.30.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=91

Thankyou.

Lady C.

Byakko- 10-26-2008
I hate to be contrary, but I have met a few walk-ins and multiples "created" from other essences walking in, so to say I'm completely wrong is, well, wrong. Unless you want to call those people wrong too.

A walk in may or may not displace the original essence. I have met people who are multiples because of other souls that walked in and took up residence. I have also met multiples that were born with more than one soul, and multiples that were "created" the same sort of way that people with MPD (multiple personality disorder) are: a psychic fracture of sorts creating other "people" in one body. Essences that walk in are not violent and aggressive unless seeking to kick out the one that's already there. Many are happy to co-exist and just want a body again, thus creating a multiple.

I have also come across people that are 100% walk in, meaning the original essence was "kicked out" so to speak, but those usually result from near death experiences, many before the individual is born (in the womb) and some in childhood. I haven't come across anyone who's original essence was kicked out by a walk in later in life.

ComeToMe- 10-26-2008
Oh you know you don't hate to be contrary Byakko. You enjoy it.
But in this case I will not be moved.
In this case you are wrong.

A Walk-In does not kick out an essence.
The situation the body finds itself in may indeed result in the original inhabitant being kicked out, but it is the situation that does the kicking not the Walk-In.
A Walk-In simply walks in and takes over to carry the body forward through it's life, nothing more.
I also know Walk-In's. Though I have no doubt at all that they will be completely different from the kind you know Byakko.

With regard to the multiples question, I agree with you when you say that some walk in and are accepted, however these usually ask permission first, and are welcomed by the original inhabitant for the gifts they bring to the existence as a whole.
I also agree with you when you say there are those born with multiple essences. But that is not what you were talking about in your original post. You said that a multiple could be created by an essence walking in and kicking out the original inhabitant, this I disagree with.
I have no doubt that there are people around who have had essences just move in and either take over or kick them out, I have never disputed that. However I would not call these people multiples, because when a body is taken over by another being in an aggressive manner that is usually referred to as possession. In instances like these the being that moves in is thinking about itself and has no interest in anything other than it's needs and what it wants. This is not a symbiosis of any kind, it is more like a parasitic organism, and does not create a multiple who are usually several essences co-existing, but a possession of a body against the will of the original inhabitant.
So I would not call this situation the creation of a multiple. I would call it possession.

Lady C.

Farshief- 10-26-2008
I probably definitely would not do it to this body. It has too many medical issues like allergies and the like.

With another body even I would have no real reason to do so. I don't have a problem waiting on a new body in say the 23rd century.

I suppose though that if I had some specific reason for wanting to do this then I would.

~Farshief

Byakko- 10-26-2008
Multiple-body with more than one essence. How that essence gets there doesn't make one a multiple, the simple state of multiple essences does. Thus, if essences walk-in making there more than one, you have a multiple. If you have a person born with multiple essences, they're a multiple. If you have a person who experiences a psychic process of fracturing their identity into multiple ones, you could call them a multiple too.

Saying someone can't be a multiple because they have walk-in essences sharing their headspace is wrong. They are multiples.

Possession occurs when a foreign essence takes over, surpressing the current essence in a body. If they can co-exist a multiple is created instead. That's what I was saying.

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